Ok. Ick. I made it through minute 5 of the video (why does he repeat himself / her so often?) and read all of your essay. In summary, I think you've got it right. I'm not the best judge however because I have a non-nuanced education in this matter. It's the kind of conversation I generally don't tend to bother having with people because it's uncomfortable to everyone and usually not productive.
Later... Just had a long, uncomfortable conversation with a friend about this. We came to the consensus, "Some cultures are better than others. She's trying to change a culture, presumably for the better but change has risk and unintended consequences."
Maybe I'll tell my grandkids, "Once upon at time, video games were largely all about men beating people up. Aren't we glad there are so many more plot-lines now?"
I try to take home the points at the end of that one -- most men aren't actually jerks, they just don't know what it's like.
I think that's part of what scares so many boy scout leaders about admitting gay adults into the organization, luckily the winds of change are changing, but every comment I see is, "What happens in the tent with gay & straight youth together? or with gay and straight adults together?" Men fear being objectified. It doesn't happen to them. They aren't used to it. The Girl Scouts solved the problem (of mixed-gender-preferences-in-the-same-tent) decades ago. I think the men will hopefully eventually get there, but it takes time, even generations.
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Later... Just had a long, uncomfortable conversation with a friend about this. We came to the consensus, "Some cultures are better than others. She's trying to change a culture, presumably for the better but change has risk and unintended consequences."
Maybe I'll tell my grandkids, "Once upon at time, video games were largely all about men beating people up. Aren't we glad there are so many more plot-lines now?"
I think it was you who sent me the Brosie the riveter URL:
http://thehawkeyeinitiative.com/post/50432219744/special-guest-edition-the-hawkeye-initiative-irl
I try to take home the points at the end of that one -- most men aren't actually jerks, they just don't know what it's like.
I think that's part of what scares so many boy scout leaders about admitting gay adults into the organization, luckily the winds of change are changing, but every comment I see is, "What happens in the tent with gay & straight youth together? or with gay and straight adults together?" Men fear being objectified. It doesn't happen to them. They aren't used to it. The Girl Scouts solved the problem (of mixed-gender-preferences-in-the-same-tent) decades ago. I think the men will hopefully eventually get there, but it takes time, even generations.
I don't want men or women to be objectified.
--Beth