blimix: Joe by a creek in the woods (Guitar)
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How's this for weird: Each teaspoon of sugar you add to your coffee raises the drink's level by less than the teaspoon before it did.

When I worked in fast food, we had to lift bins containing heavy (~60lb) bags of soft drink syrup onto racks. The diet soda syrups were appreciably lighter than the regular ones (and I did appreciate it!), due to the high density of the dissolved sugar. That got me thinking: What *is* the density of dissolved sugar? It was likely greater than that of solid sugar, because you can add lots of sugar to water without changing the volume too much. (And that's after accounting for the very significant effect of air lost from granulated sugar.) I was very curious to know how adding sugar would affect the density of the solution, and I figured that, once I knew (or calculated) the density of the dissolved sugar, I could calculate the density of any solution thereof (at standard temperature and pressure). (My experiment with the supersaturated sugar solution last year sadly involved no measurements.)

It turns out that there's no easy answer. The volume of a set mass of water or sugar in the solution (the partial molar volume) changes depending on the concentration! There isn't even a formula; people just use a chart called the Brix scale to look up the density of a sugar solution of a given concentration and temperature. (Look at the bottom of this page for a sample at 20°C.)

Working from the sample chart, when you start with pure water, dissolving a gram of sugar will raise the volume by 0.84 ml. By the time you're up to 90% sugar, adding a gram of sugar will only increase the volume by 0.59 ml. Only a few tablespoons after that, my coffee will be ready to drink.

Yes, I like sugar. Why do you ask?



(Before some smartass points it out: No, I don't take my coffee at 20°C.)

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Date: 2006-10-22 12:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolohov.livejournal.com
Is this where I point out that I'm morally offended by the suggestion that it's acceptable to put sugar in coffee? ;)

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Date: 2006-10-22 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roamin-umpire.livejournal.com
But didn't you know? Coffee's main purpose is as a cream and sugar delivery mechanism...

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Date: 2006-10-22 03:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolohov.livejournal.com
Blasphemy!

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Date: 2006-10-22 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusfallen8.livejournal.com
You drink coffee?
The second paragraph of the "introduction" page has a typo in the celsius to Fahrenheit conversion. Kinda bad form of them.
By looking at the brix scale it seems that there probably is a fairly straight forward formula, they just don't list it (starting at 10% brix, the density difference from pure water is .003998 per percent brix. The density difference increases approximately by .0002 per percent increase in brix.)

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Date: 2006-10-22 04:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusfallen8.livejournal.com
Some of us are morally offended by the concept of sugar-free coffee.

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Date: 2006-10-22 12:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolohov.livejournal.com
Yes, but you are clearly heathens. ;)

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Date: 2006-10-22 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Well yes, I am pagan, why do you ask? :P

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Date: 2006-10-22 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolohov.livejournal.com
Oh, don't hide behind that -- I know plenty of pagans who appreciate a good sugarless cup of coffee!

(definition, heathen: A person who does not worship [coffee])

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Date: 2006-10-22 06:21 pm (UTC)
feuervogel: (caffeine)
From: [personal profile] feuervogel
I take mine black with sugar. Which makes me Anglican, I suppose.

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Date: 2006-10-22 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blimix.livejournal.com
Hmmm. I just looked at the numbers. They do follow a pattern, though the difference increases reliably from 0.02106 (from 10% to 15%) to 0.03555 (from 90% to 95%). By "reliably" I mean that the difference between the differences (second derivative of density with respect to sugar per 5% of solution) rises slowly from 0.00081 to 0.00097 (at 70%) and sinks gently back down to 0.00090.

This pattern also reveals a typo in the chart. The density at Brix 30 should be 1.12898, not 1.11898. This makes it continue to fit perfectly. (I might have accepted it as a fluctuation due to reasons beyond my ken, but for that fluctuation to have the same three least significant digits as the predicted value is too improbable to swallow.)

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Date: 2006-10-22 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blimix.livejournal.com
Cream and sugar are what allowed me to start liking coffee in the first place. I would never have appreciated coffee if it weren't for my first taste of an iced mocachino cream (or is that "crème"?) from a sample tray outside the Coffee Beanery, which inspired me to create Molasses Joe's Magic Mocha Mix (http://www.blimix.com/recipes/magic_mocha.txt).

Don't knock that which gets you converts. ;-P

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Date: 2006-10-22 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blimix.livejournal.com
Oh, and yes, I drink coffee. Just not regularly. (I never bother to brew it for myself.)

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Date: 2006-10-23 01:15 pm (UTC)
kirin: Kirin Esper from Final Fantasy VI (Skuld-computer)
From: [personal profile] kirin
Yes, I think it's true that sugary mochas are one of the world's most common and effective gateway drugs.

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Date: 2006-10-23 01:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistressjennfer.livejournal.com
definitely. when i worked at a store in x-gates, i swear half my paycheck went to the cinnamon bun's mochalatta chills that i need to have every shift...

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Date: 2006-10-23 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] some-kitten.livejournal.com
Gateway drug! Gateway drug!

I'm currently sitting in the room with someone who thinks it's wrong to put dairy and sugar in coffee, someone who thinks it's wrong to put sugar in coffee , and my heathen self who embraces lots of sugar and lots of fat in order to make coffee drinkable.
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