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Hey, everyone.

This week is going to be hard to get through. I want to remind you of two things:

1. We're here for each other. We may not feel like we have a country. Or a world. But we have our community. We help each other, and we need each other.

2. Your job today is to get through today. If you're trying to figure out how to survive the next four years and/or how to fix a broken system, you aren't going to come up with the solution yourself today. That's not because those are unsolvable. It's because those are long term problems. Give yourself a realistic goal. Today, get through today.

I wrote two resources a while back that might be helpful.

Dealing with depression and/or burnout:
https://blimix.dreamwidth.org/180153.html

The tension of, "It's an emergency and I have to do something but I can't" can sometimes be relieved by "completing the stress cycle":
https://blimix.dreamwidth.org/168525.html

Those methods might work, or they might be premature. You may need some time simply to express yourself with someone who feels safe. Whatever it is, doing something is more psychologically helpful than doing nothing.

While I would love for you to talk with someone, have a good cry, do some deep breathing, and ask for what you need... If all you can do to get through the day is bottle it up and play video games to distract yourself, then go ahead.

I'm looking forward to whatever time I can get with the people who make me feel safe. Try to reach out for the same.

Lowe's

Oct. 14th, 2024 09:29 pm
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Last night, I wrote to Lowe's about ceasing their support for social justice, scaling back their DEI program, and ceasing participation in the Human Rights Campaign's survey of LGBTQ+ inclusion. "It is clear to all that this represents Lowe's caving and pandering to a handful of right-wing extremists whose only power is the ability to annoy." I explained that my circles of friends used to shop there preferentially, due to ethical concerns about their largest competitor, and that we no longer do. I posited that we are far from alone in this. "Clearly, the corporate decisions of Lowe's are not influenced by the harm they cause. I wonder whether they are affected by the customers they have lost."

Not that I expect it to make a difference. Cowards gonna cow.
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"This is regular bread, not whole wheat. So I'm going to make my sandwich out of broken glass instead."

"I have an issue with Harris, so I'm not going to vote for her in November."

The only difference between these two statements is that the first one is better: Your broken glass sandwich will only wreck you, not the whole country.

...

(In 2016, when I tried to ask y'all to be sensible, some dudebro commented that he was voting for Stein because PA was going blue regardless. Stein's share of the vote in PA was bigger than the margin by which we lost PA. He and people like him, who "voted their conscience," threw the election to Neo-Nazis. Don't be like them. You know better this time.)
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After a one year hiatus, I am making videos again! This is a short and sweet (and incisive) one, as I dip my toe back in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZInP3FuGU4

(Content note: Politics, pandemic.)
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I watched Anna Cramling's video about a chess match in which she played extremely well against a higher rated player, until an oversight caused her to miss a necessary move. She didn't see that she was still in a good position for a draw, and assumed that she was going to lose. This caused her to make another mistake, in not playing for the draw. That second mistake cost her the game.

I was immediately reminded of two things:

1. World War II: Rommel's campaign against the British in Africa. His forces were outmatched and undersupplied. But he repeatedly tricked the Brits into thinking that they would lose if they engaged him, causing them to retreat. If they had fought, they would have won easily.

2. The job and life advice, "Make them say 'no'." You want a promotion, a favor, a relationship, or whatever. But you think you're not going to get it, so you don't ask. Now it definitely doesn't happen, because you assumed it couldn't. Like the chess draw! Instead, acknowledge that the situation looks disadvantageous, but you don't know everything. Maybe you don't meet all the qualifications, but the boss thinks you can do it, or HR can't find a better candidate. Maybe that cute person sees more in you than you think they do. So ask anyway. Either it doesn't work, but you got practice asking and didn't stand in your own way, or in a pleasant twist of fate you get what you want!

All of these are important to keep in mind now. We are living in bleak times. Things look awful, and motivation is hard to come by. But a lot of events, from personal to nation- or world-shaping, come down to surprising luck: Gavrilo Princip's conspirators' assassination attempt failed, until Ferdinand's motorcade happened to stop right in front of him. The pandemic drove democrats who could work from home into gerrymandered areas, flipping them and costing the Republicans many races in 2022. Cows helped Kodak discover nuclear fallout, thanks to radioactive gelatin ruining some of their photographic plates.

Point is: You never know. The power of fascists is always more tenuous than they let on. Your action could make a difference. Or it could embolden other good people. Or it could crucially distract the powers that be from someone else's action. Even if all you do is survive, vote, and make a few ethical decisions in how you spend your money, you're making a difference.

They want you to give up hope, because they're scared of you. They want you not to vote, because they're scared of you. They want you immobile, too paralyzed to act. Because they're scared of your power. They know that they are hanging on by a thread.

Don't give up.
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There's a lot I want to say about Israel, and the long versions have all been said.

So let's just try to break this down to its essence.

There is no such thing as a terrorist country. There are no populations who deserve to be killed due to the actions of their governments. There are no populations who should be denied humanitarian aid due to the actions of their governments.

There is no "Israel versus Palestine". The eight main players here are: Two fascist governments; populations in Israel and in Gaza who want peace; populations in Israel and in Gaza who want violence; media constrained by death threats; foreign governments funding war. There are of course other, smaller players. If you want to see sides, see them in those who want peace versus those who want war.

Netanyahu and Hamas are each others' greatest allies, in their fight to get away with oppression and murder. (Netanyahu has explicitly cited bolstering Hamas as a political strategy.) Both are responsible for the oppression and murder of Gazans and Israelis. They don't care about "their own people". People are fodder to right wingers. They want war: War is good for the fascism business. War is also great for silencing the protests of "their own people" who have been loudly objecting to all the oppression and corruption and crime and murder and power grabs.

When someone says, "Boycott Disney* because they sent humanitarian aid to Israel!" that is an antisemitic dogwhistle, and an attempt to silence concern about the ongoing war crimes against Israelis.

When someone says, "Palestinians support Hamas' war crimes!" that is a bald excuse for war crimes against Gazans. (It also demonstrates how poll results are skewed by disingenuous questions and selective sampling, and how extremism is overrepresented by exposure. Here's a large, simple approval poll.)

By the way, if you're going to argue that Israelis or Gazans deserve bombings because "they elected terrorists," then you're also arguing that Americans deserve it. Our government has never let up on its crimes against humanity, under any administration.

Here are the longer takes:

Siderea's insight on contributing factors and perspective:
https://siderea.dreamwidth.org/1828323.html

The American left is being bamboozled about Israel (mine from two years ago, and still perfectly apt):
https://blimix.dreamwidth.org/165037.html

If reading is hard, John Oliver can explain to y'all that mass murder is bad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ9PKQbkJv8

* Disney is also not a monolith. The more you pay attention, the more you can see Disney as a bunch of workers trying to do right, ruled by a group of backward, patriarchal autocrats. This scenario is uncomfortably common. If you like categorizing things as "good" and "evil," some organizations oblige, but others have to be seen as power structures with competing interests between the top and everyone else. Just like countries.
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I feel sorrow for my SCA friends. From what I can see from the outside, the organization leadership are being dickbags, sacrificing the well being of members and encouraging power hungry bullies. There's a big event tomorrow that friends of mine have put a lot of work into. They are not allowed to require masks (thanks to the Board of Directors), and there will almost certainly be Covid-positive attendees. Other friends have already left the SCA for their mental health. There have long been toxic aspects of the culture there, but the leadership is making it so much worse now.

I think the SCA is one of those groups where outcasts, geeks, freaks, and nerds find their "home": The people with whom they can be themselves. I used to have a small, far-flung, and passionate group like that for myself. But we were young and full of Geek Social Fallacies. Few who have suffered ostracism want to inflict it on others. Few who benefit from their group want to deny its benefits to the other members. But then one or two toxic members gradually rip the group apart. In a big organization like the SCA, it's way more than one or two toxic members. As the worst are encouraged and the best are driven out, even those who stay out of desperation for their valued friendships and passions will lose what they were getting from the group.

I'm sure it was never supposed to get political, but I can't help but see the hand of identity politics. Spreading Covid is a Republican value. Punishing people for defying bullies is a Republican value. The SCA leadership are taking these actions because doing so declares their affiliation, which they think will keep them safe from their overlords. Because they've never read about the Brown Shirts.
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Hi, everyone!

Midterm elections are really important for our future. Early voting is in progress, through Sunday, November 6th in New York. The general election is on Tuesday, November 8th. Your early voting site is probably not your regular polling place. Your local Board of Elections should list the early voting locations and hours.

Information about the candidates and propositions on your ballot, as well as your election day polling location, can be found here:
https://www.vote411.org/
Give it your address; click the "Submit" button. Choose your language and click "Go to My Races".
You'll also get a link to a source of early polling places. (At least, I did.)

If you have problems voting, you can call or text 1-866-OUR-VOTE (1-866-687-8683). This appears to be advertised nationwide.

New York polling places, races, propositions, and verification of voter registration:
https://voterlookup.elections.ny.gov/
Early voting places are listed in a drop-down menu in the first box.

Ballotpedia is working for me this year:
https://ballotpedia.org/Main_Page

Albany county information:
https://www.albanycounty.com/departments/board-of-elections
(You can generate a sample ballot for your address.)

Rensselaer county information:
https://www.rensco.com/429/Elections

Schenectady county information:
http://www.schenectadycounty.com/boe
https://www.schenectadycounty.com/sites/default/files/BOE/GE22%20Sample%20Ballots%20for%20website.pdf

Saratoga county information:
https://www.saratogacountyny.gov/departments/board-of-elections/

I'm kind of swamped, so I haven't taken the time to look for endorsements.

This post is not a discussion forum, but I would appreciate relevant links to further information.
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People whose politics are literally defined by fear mock good people for "living in fear" during a pandemic. Right now, the thing they *should* fear is that when they inevitably get disabled by long COVID, society will treat them every bit as cruelly and negligently as they themselves are currently treating others.
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There's a stanza in Don Henley's song, "My Thanksgiving":

"The trouble with you and me, my friend, is the trouble with this nation: Too many blessings; too little appreciation."

Translation: "As a wealthy, straight, white, abled cis-male, I don't have to deal with the problems that the rest of you keep talking about. So I'd appreciate it if you'd stop complaining, and just be thankful for what you have."

Fuck you too, Don.

There are other things I wanted to do today. But silence is violence. So let's talk about the trouble with this nation.

The Puritans were basically the Nazis of their time. They didn't flee religious persecution; they got kicked out for being too fucking violent. They founded this country on their ideals: White supremacy, Christian supremacy, authoritarianism, and gleeful murder. These ideals are the bedrock of the right wing and of all power in the U.S.

To be clear, by "authoritarianism" I don't mean, "People in power get to tell others what to do". I mean, "People in power get to do whatever the hell they want to those with less power, up to and including genocide, and are not held accountable for it."

The first Thanksgiving celebrated the successful massacre of several hundred Pequot villagers.

The famous "sale" of Manhattan for $24 worth of trinkets was made by a tribe that did not live there, to colonizers who brought with them the unspoken notion that owning property means kicking everybody else off.

General Custer did not make a "last stand". He and his troops were on friendly terms with the tribes they were visiting until he decided to attack them. Despite the fact that this violated his orders, the U.S. government was incensed that a powerful white man had suffered the consequences of his actions, at the hands of non-white people. They took out their wrath on Indigenous peoples throughout the country.

I trust I don't have to get into the concentration camps, the reservations, and the Trail of Tears.

The term "concentration camps" does not compare the U.S. to Hitler. Rather, Hitler compared himself to the U.S.: He cited our genocide, and our concentration camps in particular, as the inspiration for his.

"Indian boarding schools" that served as both assimilation and concentration camps were hotbeds of disease, abuse, and neglect. Thousands of Indigenous children "disappeared" (died) in those genocidal schools.

Enforced poverty is genocide.

Nuclear waste contaminating reservations is genocide.

Taking away Indigenous children because they are in poverty is genocide. Giving funds to foster parents, which could have helped the children in their homes, well... That's some salt in the wounds, right there. Also hella sus.

Missing and murdered Indigenous women: Genocide.

The destruction and contamination of Indigenous land by pipelines that were deemed too dangerous for white settlements: Genocide.

Oh, and will someone kindly tell me what happened to all the water protectors who were "arrested" at the Dakota Access Pipeline and never seen again?

Genocide is not a shameful chapter of this nation's past. It's what this nation still is, and will continue to be, as long as it is ruled by the Puritan notion that white Christians have a free pass to kill people.

I'm happy to not celebrate Thanksgiving as such. I just wonder: If today is to be a day of mourning, how is it different from all other days?
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In 2014, I wrote a post explaining why it is problematic to silence the people who complain about police murdering Black people. A random commenter took great offense at my defense of "criminals".

We all know what this is code for, but let me say it out loud: If you learned of the killing of Eric Garner and decided that you have a problem with someone selling cigarettes outside of the packs, but not with someone committing murder, then you don't have a problem with criminals. You have a problem with Black people.

My lefty friends: I love you. And when you have a problem with the Israeli government's war crimes but not with Hamas' war crimes, do you know what that sounds like you do and do not have a problem with? Yeah, that.

It's tiring. But in this case, I know it's not your fault. What's happening here is an engineered Dunning–Kruger effect.

Hear me out. I'm not pretending to be an expert. I merely know enough to be aware of how much I don't know, because I've at least had the privilege of listening to experts, and I'm awfully good at recognizing patterns. (Just like nobody but a Black American is an expert on the experience of being Black in America, and nobody who isn't Autistic is an expert on autism, nobody who hasn't lived in the Middle East is an expert on the situation there.)

The biggest thing that you're missing is that you're hearing less than half of the story. This article explains it:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/11/how-the-media-makes-the-israel-story/383262/

In short, international reporters in the area, and their editors, are aware that they are in danger of being murdered by Hamas. So they can print anti-Israel stories with impunity, but they have to leave Hamas alone. "Hamas fighters would burst into the AP’s Gaza bureau and threaten the staff — and the AP wouldn’t report it." "Cameramen waiting outside Shifa Hospital in Gaza City would film the arrival of civilian casualties and then, at a signal from an official, turn off their cameras when wounded and dead fighters came in, helping Hamas maintain the illusion that only civilians were dying."

There is much more that I could quote, but my purpose isn't to turn you against Hamas or the reporters. I merely want to let you know *that* you aren't seeing the whole picture, and *why* you aren't seeing it. You're good folks, and most of you are willing to open your mind to the idea that you have been systematically lied to.

We're used to that. From the whitewashing of American history to the erasure of women in STEM, we keep learning that we have been indoctrinated since childhood with unnecessary prejudices. We do what we can to counter and unlearn those. A friend created a video (no longer available) detailing various antisemitic tropes, and I was stunned by how many of these I had internalized as harmless. I still enjoy the loving self-mockery of 2 Live Jews, "As Kosher As They Wanna Be," but it's good for me to be aware of how the tropes they use for humor can also be problematic. Just as Black people here are raised with internalized systemic racism, I (named Levy) was raised with some amount of internalized antisemitism.

I'm glad I know more about that now, and am no longer perpetuating those stereotypes, to the extent possible. I'm glad I know more about Israel and Gaza now, and have stopped accidentally emboldening anti-Semites by being complicit in the telling of a one-sided narrative: A narrative which decries brutality by the IDF against Palestinians while ignoring systemic brutality by Hamas against not only Israelis but also their own citizens.

And... If I'm being honest, my complicity was not just caused by ignorance and perhaps unconscious antisemitism. It was caused by Islamophobia, too. I figured that I could write to people who share my culture, who look and talk like I do, and ask them to curb their violence. These Jews might be reasonable, and I could appeal to their empathy. What good would it do to ask Arabs to not be violent?

Yeah. It's shameful. I don't think I ever consciously thought those words, but the sentiment was there, in the background. If asked, I would have cited the lack of common language and common culture. Why would they listen to me, an outsider? Indeed, there is little reason. Having since read many empathic, caring, and very human essays in fluent English from Gazans, I now know that there were only two reasons that my pleas couldn't have moved the citizens of Gaza — and they were the same reasons that my essays of the time never moved any citizens of Israel. First, I had fundamentally misunderstood their situation. Second, most of them already desperately wanted peace, but those were not the people in power.

As an American, I cried when Bush Jr. invaded Iraq. All of us who were paying attention knew that it was a going to be a humanitarian disaster, accomplishing nothing but to enrich Halliburton and Saudi oil barons. Our protesting had been powerless to prevent it. How much more powerless must the people of Gaza feel, watching Hamas fire rockets from their schools at Israeli schools? How terrified and traumatized, when the IDF fires back?

I'm glad now that I hadn't tried to beseech them for peace. Imagine how insulting that would have been: How utterly invalidating of their lived experiences, and of their basic humanity.

And how insulting — how utterly, ignorantly blind — is it now, to write of the terrified, traumatized people of Israel, who have been fleeing at sirens and feeling the blasts from the bomb shelters built into their homes, and to condemn them for violence? They don't want war! Nobody good wants war. Are there Israelis who do want war? Sure. There were also Americans with "Freedom isn't free" bumper stickers when Bush invaded Iraq, but you wouldn't paint us all with the "fascist" brush, so why do it to the citizens of Israel? When you pretend that killing is their aim, you are calling them evil. And then yes, whether or not it is your intention, you are engaging in antisemitism.

Learn. Do better. You're lefties; that's what you do. You got this.




p.s. I've noticed an issue with the word "Zionist". It tends to be associated with the militant, xenophobic right wing. But Israelis will also defend against criticism of the word, explaining that it simply refers to the belief that Israel has a right to exist, or to the belief that Jews have a right to live where they will not suffer systemic oppression and murder. What's a person to think of Zionists, then? Consider that we have a word that enjoys a similar double use here in the U.S.: "Patriot". If someone here describes themselves first and foremost as a "patriot," I'll conclude with 98% certainty that they are a cowardly, treasonous Nazi with homicidal fantasies and a subservience to power that would make Stanley Milgram facepalm. Those of us who care to protect and uplift our fellow Americans? We are patriots. We don't crow about it, because being decent toward each other is not something to be proud of: It's simply the bare minimum, that we should all be doing anyway, and we don't expect a cookie just for not being a douchebag. Of course I'm a patriot: No big deal. If someone calls themselves a "Zionist," you may have to read their meaning from context.

p.p.s. If someone explains the causes of the Middle East conflict and doesn't mention British imperialism, they're not informing you. They're just trying to sway you. Also, racial problems there are very different from racial problems here. Comparison of Israeli/Palestinian relations and violence to BLM is a fantasy. If you've followed me for any time, you know I fully support the Black Lives Matter movement. The organization of the same name, like many of my beloved American progressives, espouses a mistaken official line regarding race in Israel.

p.p.p.s. Again, I'm not an expert. If you are one, feel free to correct or clarify anything here. I'm always ready to learn and do better.
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I'm getting tired of liberals smugly pointing out that right-wingers are hypocrites. People who say that are almost always avoiding the actual point.

Right-wing ideology is deliberately homicidal and genocidal. An intrinsic strategy of the right wing is to make thinly veiled excuses for their behavior, to cover up their real motives. To merely counter their arguments, and to allow them to respond with further lies or doubling down, is to engage in their game. It keeps the framing in their hands. When you claim that their actions make no sense even according to their stated values, you are shying away from acknowledging that their actions make sense according to their unstated values. You are being unconscionably polite toward oppression and mass murder.

  • Example: "Pro-lifers" opposing birth control and sex education.
    It was the Catholic church that reframed abortion as being about "life". Opposing abortion is a convenient way for cowards to demonstrate their allegiance to powerful bullies*, through their willingness to harm people to no good end, when that is what those bullies ask. To actually take steps that would reduce abortion would not further this goal. Therefore, they do not bother. Additionally, increasing the subjugation of women grants men the ability to murder them more easily and with more impunity.
    * Much more on the kowtowing to bullies here.
  • Example: Trumpers beating police officers with a Thin Blue Line flag.
    The Thin Blue Line, "All Lives Matter," and "Blue Lives Matter" all mean exactly one thing: White people should have the right to harass, oppress, and murder Black people. None of those things have anything to do with respect for the dignity or lives of police officers. American fascists know this perfectly well. They just won't say it, because "defending the police" is a socially acceptable cover story (and dog whistle) for their racist emblems and slogans.
  • Example: Right wingers who support martial law, concentration camps, mass surveillance, and/or any other authoritarian government behavior, claim that mask mandates are a violation of their rights.
    Authoritarianism and bullies go hand-in-hand. This should need no explanation. Those who enjoy harming people have an unparalleled opportunity to do so during a pandemic. Merely by talking face-to-face, they can threaten people's lives. Occasionally, they even get to kill someone, with plausible deniability! "How was I supposed to know I was sick?" They haven't missed the message: They know that they could be harboring the virus at any time. Their knowledge that they might be killing people, without having to lift a finger or risk jail time, is simply thrilling! And all they have to do is lie about their reasons, like they've always practiced. Both authoritarianism and anti-masking are opportunities to get away with harming people.


The list of so-called right wing hypocrisies is vast, but entirely consistent with their unstated goals. They have no principles or even opinions on how Supreme Court nominees should be confirmed: They only care about empowering oppressors. They don't care about speaking ill of the dead: It's an excuse to silence criticism of wrongdoers. They don't care about criminal behavior: They care about dehumanizing poor and Black people, and excusing the rich and white people who victimize them. I'm sure you don't need me to cover the rest to make my point.

Are there right-wingers who don't know that their voices, votes, and donations support crimes against humanity? Absolutely. (I expect some otherwise decent people worked on the Death Star, too, out of ignorance, cowardice, or lack of conviction.) But we still find them parroting the same lies, even after they are clearly debunked. We can't help the world by stopping at, "Your stated reasons don't make sense." Conservatives don't care. They just "believe" what they're told to: It doesn't have to make sense, and they're okay with that. Calling out them and their beliefs for hypocrisy is not sufficient. We need to call them out for harming people.

Further reading: Siderea explores the homicidal and genocidal impulses of the right wing in sections 6.1 and 6.2 of this post.
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The difference between a typical conservative and a Nazi isn't whether you condone white supremacist violence. It's whether you're too embarrassed to admit that you condone white supremacist violence.

...

If you see yourself in this post, and think that I'm mischaracterizing you, then prove me wrong:

1. Assert in public that the police need to stop murdering Black people.

2. Speak out in public against the genocidal neo-Nazi, and ask your friends not to vote for him.

Bonus point. If you're not a complete coward, try speaking out against the genocidal neo-Nazi and the attempted coup before you know that they're on the losing side.

If you can't do these things, then you do in fact condone white supremacist violence.
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This is another of those times that I notice all the stuff that I've typed up quickly for Facebook (as posts or comments), none of which individually fit the longer, more considered format that I prefer for Dreamwidth. Here's a compilation. Behind a cut. )
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Amalia Rubin and I just recorded this song: Mammas, Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up To Be Fascists

It was my first time in a professional recording studio, and I had a great time.

We had a spectacular outdoor take for the video, but my camera cut out (due to low battery) two-thirds of the way through. I can't complain, though: We still have a good video. (And the outdoor one, while very pretty with snow falling on us, had a couple of cars drive by in the background. So it's not like we lost a perfect take.)
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In my "Biggest Bully" explanation of conservatives, I noted close overlap with Siderea's explanation of The Two Moral Modes and George Lakoff's comparison to families.

However, I also disagree with their notion that the conservatism of the masses is about the way they think the world should work.

It's not so much a desire for an authoritarian social hierarchy, as a simple belief in it. This is an instinctive and unconscious belief, shielding it from scrutiny. The "desires" attached to it constitute the small comfort that people on a totem pole can take: That there's always someone lower. I think they don't precisely want their social group to be able to dominate and abuse others: Rather, they strongly feel that that's simply how the social totem pole already works. Those who lack a sense of self worth, in particular, resent liberals for implying that it isn't, and for making it taboo to publicly acknowledge that they (the right-wingers) are better than LGTBQ+ folks, black people, women, Mexicans, Muslims, poor people, people with disabilities, et cetera, excluding those groups to which they themselves belong.

They love Trump, not because he promised to give them the right to abuse people beneath them, but because he validated their understanding that they already had that position and that right.

The fact that everyone who voted for him is getting shafted by him doesn't change that! The irrationality of voting against their own interests, while blindingly obvious (even to some of them in hindsight), is irrelevant. Suffering is the price of being low on the totem pole: Those above you, like the government, can do what they want to you. Their votes didn't mean, "We prefer to be part of a hierarchical, authoritarian totem pole than not be," but rather "Life is a hierarchical, authoritarian totem pole, and you have to submit to the dominance of the people above you; deal with it." Trump acknowledged the totem pole and claimed dominance. Clinton, being a woman in America, wasn't in a position to claim dominance even if she had wanted to: The totem pole puts women below men.

The refusal to acknowledge this is part of the insidiously fascist undercurrent of the self-flagellating "Liberal America didn't reach out to poor white people" sentiment. (Also, that sentiment ignores all of the unethical things that Republicans did to win the election, in favor of blaming compassionate people for not expressing sufficient sympathy for views based on hatred, bigotry, misogyny, and lies. I suspect that the sentiment arises in the same way that causes many Christians to blame others' misfortunes on their lack of piety: It's comforting to pretend that our fate is entirely in our own hands (or God's), making us feel safe from malign forces outside of our control. Of course, that pretense leaves people ill prepared for their own misfortunes, so one must keep rationalizing: They/we must have done something to deserve it!)

Done.

Mar. 21st, 2018 10:03 pm
blimix: Joe leaning way out at a waterfall (waterfall)

This discussion is over because you're arguing in bad faith.



I was willing to discuss the topic with you, but since you refuse to do so honestly, you have given up all claim to my attention. I will not waste my time taking our discussion more seriously than you take it.

While I do not owe you any further explanation, I might indicate that one or more of the following gave you away:

1. You grossly misrepresented my point, turning it into something silly that you could rebut, since you couldn't address my actual point. (Straw man fallacy.)

2. You completely ignored the fact that I have already refuted your point. You either continued to assert the same misinformation without addressing the refutation, or you immediately moved on to assert new misinformation.

3. You have shown by your actions (during or before our discussion) that you don't even believe the words you just said.

4. You literally insulted me for being a good person. (For example, you might have said, "cuck," "social justice warrior," "ni**er-lover," "feminazi," or "politically correct" (which is a derogatory way to say, "respectful").)

5. You compared a cry for justice to oppression. To ask people (including you) to not do harmful things is to oppose oppression. If you think that your "right" to harm people is more important than their right to be free from your harm, you are an entitled, sociopathic brat.

6. You attacked good people but claimed to be neutral. Pretending that "both sides are the same" is a transparent attempt to silence good people who are trying to stop bad people from continuing to oppress and murder. In the fight between right and wrong, between good and evil, "objectively neutral" validates the wrong and empowers the evil. You are not "neutral" or "objective". You are merely a scared sycophant supporting oppressors by trying to keep people from making waves.

7. You object to being associated with the position that you fervently support. (For example, you support fascism, Nazi apologism, white supremacy, or sexism, but object to being called "fascist," "Nazi apologist," "white supremacist," or "sexist".)

8. Cursing me out is not an argument. It merely reveals your frustration with your own inability to argue your point.

9. You just told a bald-faced lie to support your position. Did you seriously think I couldn't look it up? If you have to lie to make your case, you don't have a case.




In case it wasn't clear, this page is a resource for people arguing online. When the person you were arguing with shows that they were wasting your time, but you just can't let their final comment go unanswered, give them a link to this page. Their exact transgression need not show up here.

If you feel maligned, or think that you were sent here inappropriately, suck it up. The discussion is over, and you have nothing to gain by attempting to draw it out.

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Having completed my work on bullying in politics, I would now like to share some insights into bullies, which I gained from personal experience. Cut for moderate length. )
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Okay, my latest attempt to save the world is now up on Medium. I'd regard it as a personal favor to humanity if you would please spread the word.
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[Note: "Liberals" and "conservatives" refer here to the American left and right wings respectively. Other countries use these terms differently.]

The distinction between liberals and conservatives is at once simpler and more complex than people like to acknowledge. This is hugely important, because if liberals are to make long-lasting, significant gains, we have to understand why conservatives act the way they do. I don't just mean, "Stop vilifying them and try to reach across the divide," because that won't work: They're not offering handshakes to reach for, and they are happily supporting widespread oppression and murder while we hand-wring about getting them to like us. (However, I will make a point or two about reaching out, near the end.) We need to understand them so that we are better equipped to talk to them, to oppose them, and to more efficiently save the human lives that they threaten. (Thanks to their confirmation bias, I am not worried about similarly enabling conservatives to understand liberals, even though all the information they would need is right here.)

I promised simple and complex. The simple part is: Conservatives want to be on the side of the biggest bully. The rest is behind this cut. )
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